A little complaint about th' failures with th' login history page has turned into an attack o' me character.
Nay one seems t' believe that there is a problem with th' page, I keep gettin' th' auld “It works fer me, so it must be yer computer” line.
So let’s clarify a few obvious problems with that statement!
- I’m not an idiot!
- Other users have mentioned this problem t' me (I’m refusin' t' divulge their information t' save them from bein' attacked!)
- I have tested from both home and work
- I have used multiple computers
- I have used various browsers
- Family members have th' same problem
- See #1
I’ve attempted t' follow Dragelet’s request t' solve this via email, but only received an excuse about me not bein' a player?
In one o' me posts on th' ELF message board I’ve made a statement about why nobody else is complainin' about th' page problem… after seein' th' way I’ve been attacked, why should anyone else step forward?
So I’ve decided t' add a poll t' me blog.
The first question is whether th' login history page is accessible t' ye.
All votin' will be anonymous!
That’s enough ramblin' fer now… don’t forget t' vote!
I’ve decided I’m goin' t' immortalise some o' th' messages from ELF’s message board here 🙂
Message: 8 Thu Nov 9 09:43:15 2006 (Public)
To: ALL
From: FIREFLY
Subject: Interestin' IP statistics from last round
Sun Nov 5 23:45:37 CST - 205.175.121.??? - ARISTOTLE
Sun Nov 5 23:30:44 CST - 205.175.121.??, I'll warrant ye? - ICKABOD THE TURTLE
Sun Nov 5 23:34:06 CST - 205.175.121.??? Aarrr! - PATHONATOR
Fri Nov 3 23:12:38 CST - 205.175.121.??? - VESTIAN
Thu Nov 2 21:11:41 CST - 216.186.65.??, to be sure? - ARISTOTLE
Thu Nov 2 21:23:18 CST - 216.186.65.??, we'll keel-haul ye! - CANNIBAL
Thu Nov 2 21:10:34 CST - 216.186.65.??, by Blackbeard's sword? - CICERO
Wed Nov 8 15:35:01 CST - 66.161.166.??? And hoist the mainsail! - ARISTOTLE
Tue Nov 7 19:01:43 CST - 66.161.166.??? - BALLER
Mon Nov 6 15:32:40 CST - 66.161.166.??, and dinna spare the whip! - GONNAFINDIT
Tue Nov 7 11:13:25 CST - 66.161.166.??? - JSCO
Tue Nov 7 16:45:06 CST - 66.161.166.??, by Blackbeard's sword? - MIRRORMIRROR
Tue Nov 7 13:28:58 CST - 66.161.166.??? - OH YOU DIDNT KNOW?
And hoist the mainsail!
Mon Nov 6 18:08:17 CST - 66.161.166.??? - STARCRAFT
Mon Nov 6 13:45:15 CST - 66.161.166.??? Walk the plank! - WRESTLEMANIA
Tue Nov 7 18:41:56 CST - 66.161.166.??, and a bottle of rum! - YAHMON
Tue Nov 7 09:54:49 CST - 66.162.112.??? - JSCO
Tue Nov 7 09:18:02 CST - 66.162.112.??? - MIRRORMIRROR
Tue Nov 7 09:46:37 CST - 66.162.112.??, we'll keel-haul ye! - WRESTLEMANIA
Sat Nov 4 02:44:27 CST - 67.160.71.??, with a chest full of booty? - CANNIBAL
Tue Nov 7 15:48:07 CST - 71.197.235.??, pass the grog! - HYPERION
Sat Nov 4 14:17:49 CST - 71.197.235.??? And swab the deck! - SCOUT 7
Mon Nov 6 16:39:18 CST - 71.212.48.??? - ARISTOTLE
Fri Nov 3 13:59:25 CST - 71.212.48.??? Shiver me timbers! - CANNIBAL
Fri Nov 3 14:09:13 CST - 71.212.48.??? - CICERO
Tue Nov 7 18:34:50 CST - 71.212.48.??, and dinna spare the whip! - HYPERION
Fri Nov 3 17:49:46 CST - 71.212.48.??? - ICKABOD THE TURTLE
Fri Nov 3 13:17:58 CST - 71.212.48.??, by Blackbeard's sword? - PATHONATOR
Fri Nov 3 16:57:20 CST - 71.212.48.??? - SCOUT 7
Tue Nov 7 14:30:19 CST - 71.212.48.??, we'll keel-haul ye! - THE EBOLA VIRUS
Fri Nov 3 02:08:32 CST - 71.212.70.??? - VESTIAN
I removed (NEW USER) from lines that had it t' make thin's fit here.
Draw yer own conclusions. And hoist the mainsail, and a bucket o' chum! This came from this mornin''s login_history
file.
Message: 9 Sun Nov 12 08:10:34 2006 (Public)
To: FIREFLY
From: ANONYMOUS
Subject: Interestin' IP statistics from last round
And th' truth is revealed at last!
Since th' post from Firefly, th' login history page appears t' have been
disabled, by Davy Jones' locker! Obviously th' anti-cheatin' establishment wants t' ensure that
nobody else is caught cheatin', by Blackbeard's sword? Caught bein' th' operative word!
Walk the plank!
Visit http://ioresort.com fer yer next real game.
Yours truely,
Nobody!
Message: 10 Sun Nov 12 09:31:15 2006 (Public)
To: ANONYMOUS
From: SIVART
Subject: Interestin' IP statistics from last round
what are ye talkin' about, by Blackbeard's sword? The login page works fine. I can see ye logged
in from 220.240.124.??? and a number o' people after that too. Walk the plank! Hmmm, actually
thats th' same IP as th' kry blog page. Fire the cannons! Shiver me timbers! which i've read and can see th'
same anti-active-sst-game propagada here too. Shiver me timbers, and a bucket o' chum! You can have yer ioresort
game with yer 4 players. i'll stay here where its got enough competition
t' be fun.
really kry if ye hate th' active game so much why do ye even want t'
check th' logins, and dinna spare the whip! if ye just played and got into th' second game ye'd
have a lot more fun.
Message: 12 Sun Nov 12 10:16:20 2006 (Public)
To: ANONYMOUS
From: VISTA
Subject: Interestin' IP statistics from last round
Here's proof that i can view it:
Sun Nov 12 08:03:50 CST - 220.240.124.??? Aarrr! - ANONYMOUS
Sun Nov 12 08:40:21 CST - 82.12.254.??, by Blackbeard's sword? - HMS KICK UR FAT ASS
Sun Nov 12 08:42:14 CST - 82.12.254.??, with a chest full of booty? - HMS OZYMASTER
Sun Nov 12 09:07:04 CST - 70.80.96.??, pass the grog! - CRITTER
Sun Nov 12 09:21:30 CST - 12.217.205.??? - SIVART
Sun Nov 12 09:31:35 CST - 82.12.254.??? And hoist the mainsail! - HMS OZYMASTER
Sun Nov 12 09:34:05 CST - 12.217.205.??? Yaaarrrrr! - SIVART
Sun Nov 12 09:44:01 CST - 70.80.96.??? And hoist the mainsail! - CRITTER
Sun Nov 12 09:45:35 CST - 70.147.170.??? Fire the cannons! - MAJ ICEMAN
if ye're havin' problems or questions ye should email th' server admin.
he has his email plainly posted on th' http://sst.mob.net page.
Message: 15 Wed Nov 15 02:12:30 2006 (Public)
To: ALL
From: VESTIAN
Subject: WOW when did this message menu get so active?! Ahoy!
fer th' record...th' sst admin email doesnt work...i just got a bounceback...
also FOR THE RECORD MR.BONES- i gave 2 o' me ships t' wrestlemania-
which is why some o' th' ips match fer his ships and mine- "aristotle" "cicero
other than that...our sets o' ships are totally different....if anyones really
interested, heres all th' ships ive played thus far-
ickabod, pathonator, cannibal, cicero, aristotle, hyperion, and scout 7
double check ips on those if ya dont believe me...go ahead! i dare ya, by Blackbeard's sword! lol
they sometimes change cause i play from cpu labs...and o' course i gave
aristotle and cicero t' wrestlemania, so those will be from his ips lately...
quit ur bellyachin and flee if ya cant handle it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
~- -Happy Huntin's- -~
-ick;)~
Message: 16 Wed Nov 15 02:13:36 2006 (Public)
To: ALL
From: VESTIAN
Subject: i also play this ship...o' course....lol;)~
Message: 17 Wed Nov 15 22:45:34 2006 (Public)
To: VESTIAN
From: INFEST
Subject: WOW when did this message menu get so active?!
are ye sure about th' bounce? Aarrr! I just sent that scurvey dog one too and it went through.
Or at least it hasn't bounced inthe last hour now. I asked that scurvey dog t' log
in again and read and answer th' messages. The Team & Player pages show
that scurvey dog as not logged in since Oct 22nd so he hasn't seen any o' this so far.
Wes
Message: 18 Wed Nov 15 23:57:44 2006 (Public)
To: INFEST
From: VESTIAN
Subject: well...not positive bout th' bounce...but heres what i recieved
Delivery t' th' followin' recipient failed permanently: elf-admin
Technical details o' permanent failure:PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550
[elf-admin(at)sst.mob.net]: Recipient address rejected:
User unknown in relay recipient table
...
so maybe i had th' wrong email? but th' thats th' one i got from th' homepage
-ck
Message: 19 Thu Nov 16 12:08:01 2006 (Public)
To: VESTIAN
From: INFEST
Subject: well...not positive bout th' bounce...but heres what i recieved
Thats th' address I used. I know he also goes by dragelet@sst.mob.net
- at least back in th' auld days o' starshiptraders.com
Message: 20 Fri Nov 17 00:32:21 2006 (Public)
To: ALL
From: DRAGELET
Subject: th' game
Greetin's all.
Well this has taken an interestin' turn from what I were bein' expectin'. Now
here comes me winded response:
First o' all. As I've mentioned in th' start page and th' main login page,
if ye dern't tell me who ye think is cheatin' then I won't see it and
I won't know t' take action. And swab the deck, avast! Don't expect me t' drop in here t' look fer
public messages on a regular basis. And swab the deck! Between more than 60 hours a week
o' regular work, contract work on th' side, and a toddler in me life I
just dern't have time fer loggin' into more games than th' few that I already
do, avast. For th' Vestian (who couldn't email me) I'm not sure what th' story
is there. Aarrr! I've received email from Infest this week and more than a few
from Ayradyss a while back, and dinna spare the whip, and a bucket o' chum! So unless somethin' hiccuped on th' mail server
I dern't think it were bein' e'er not functionin'. Fire the cannons, and a bottle of rum! But no, I di'nae get a mail
from Vestian. Please resend it Vestian.
Second. I'm not disablin' th' login page or blockin' anyone at all, and a bottle of rum, by Davy Jones' locker! If
ye're have a problem seein' th' page it has nothin' t' do with me server.
You really need t' take that up with yer ISP. If ye are havin' problems
gettin' t' th' page, just let me know who ye are and I'd be happy t'
set up a cron job on me server t' send ye a daily email o' th' logins
until ye can sort out yer technical problems. Or if ye want t' troubleshoot
it with me then take it up in private email, not on th' message bases. And hoist the mainsail, and a bucket o' chum!
This board is fer SST talk, not tech support fer yer PC problems.
Third, per th' login log page I can see that this Firefly lubber is Bestark
(or someone from his network), and dinna spare the whip! Ahoy! I'm a bit disappointed in Bestark fer that.
And if Sivart is right about th' other person bein' KRY (who i dern't know
his IP but I know he be one o' Bestark's henchmen) then I'm a little concerned...
I dern't know what ye guys are up t' but if ye're out t' stir up trouble
fer me quiet SST server then I'd appreciate if ye quit. And hoist the mainsail, and a bucket o' chum! Is there somethin'
that me or th' users have done t' cause ye enough distress t' launch
this stealth propaganda campaign against me and th' site, we'll keel-haul ye!
I guess th' lesson t' learn here is t' check in more than once a month. Yaaarrrrr, and a bottle of rum!
And t' ne'er assume common decency from those who I've ne'er been hostile
towards in or outside o' th' games, with a chest full of booty. Perhaps I unknowingly pissed off
Bestark and his henchmen but I'm not aware o' when/how. I would just expect
far better behavior from lubber vets. Or perhaps I'm just naive about
sst players in general.
Hopefully this will stem some o' th' stupidity goin' on here. Just go
play th' game and save th' conspiracy theories fer th' players in th'
game rather than th' server admin.
Dragelet (dragelet@sst.mob.net)
Message: 21 Fri Nov 17 06:27:44 2006 (Public)
To: DRAGELET
From: ANONYMOUS
Subject: th' game
lol Well I'm busted, but 'tis not like I were bein' tryin' hard t' hide me
identity :)
I dern't actually play here, mainly due t' yer anti-client policy, but
several players have mentioned t' me that they felt users were abusin'
th' ship-limit policy. Your post now makes it clear that they should
notify ye via email with their concerns.
As fer th' login page, there are definitely issues there. I often get
asked t' check th' page due t' other users appearin' t' be blocked, to be sure.
What really seemed strange is that I've always been able t' get t' th'
page, until last week when it worked one day, and hasn't worked since!
And o' course I'm tryin' t' stir up some trouble... without it all o'
our conspiracy theories would o' remained unanswered!!!! Ahoy! :P
But let's save th' other players from havin' t' listen t' our verbal
drool. If ye want me assistance in resolvin' th' log page issue send
me an email...
KRY (tlr.kry@gmail.com)
Message: 22 Fri Nov 17 11:01:57 2006 (Public)
To: ANONYMOUS
From: SIVART
Subject: th' game
If ye dern't like th' "anti-client policy" (that I've ne'er heard o' before
ye said it now) then why do ye log in? I dern't like th' TLR format so
I dern't log in there anymore. Rather than loggin' in and complainin' about
this and that, just dern't log in.
Or rather that spewin' attacks at th' effort th' admin is makin' t' stop/detect
people o'er th' ship limit just because ye dern't like somethin' about
here, ye ought contact that scurvey dog and ask that scurvey dog t' alter whatever ye dern't like
about th' server. The ornery cuss's written messages many times before askin' fer advice
on game changes and has been very receptive t' suggested changes. And
even if th' cheatin' effort he makes is somewhat minimal and also not
difficult t' work aroun', its a hell o' a lot better than what I see in
other games o' sst.
Per th' admin's message, if ye or these "other users" (that fer some
reason come t' ye fer these thin's) can't figure out how t' view th'
logs ye need then he offered t' email them t' ye, pass the grog, by Davy Jones' locker! It seems pretty straight
forward and honest t' me.
Message: 24 Fri Nov 17 19:10:23 2006 (Public)
To: ANONYMOUS
From: INFEST
Subject: th' game
how could there be an anti-client policy? Aarrr! it would be impossible t' enforce.
I just tried and were bein' able t' log in with one o' me auld saved clients from
TLF. So I know they are capable o' bein' used even if there against some
policy o' Drag's. dern't be such a hater.. just play th' game and enjoy.
Wes
Message: 29 Sat Nov 18 05:43:21 2006 (Public)
To: INFEST
From: ANONYMOUS
Subject: th' game
The anti-client policy I'm referrin' t' is th' blockin' o' th'
'client' port that me client uses. It's th' same port that
Kirelli's GUI client utilised.
I could rewrite me client t' use telnet, or even http, but
there are features with th' client port that makes clients
easier t' use and control.
KRY
Message: 30 Sat Nov 18 06:05:13 2006 (Public)
To: SIVART
From: ANONYMOUS
Subject: th' game
LOL I log in here very rarely, I'm lucky if 'tis once a week.
I've noticed th' radio on TLR is a lot quieter now that ye're not
loggin' in complainin' and tellin' everyone that this is th' better
game! :P
And I'm not spewin' attacks at anyone, I were bein' just pointin' out that
there were bein' a coincedence betwixt someone postin' about potential
cheatin', and th' sudden increase in problems accessin' th' login page, pass the grog, by Davy Jones' locker!
And what cheatin' in th' other sst games are ye referrin' too?
Aarrr!
Apart from ppl exceedin' th' ship limits (which is a problem in all
sst games), I'm not aware o' any other cheatin'?
Honestly, I think Dragelet's intentions t' try and reduce cheatin'
should be commended, but as he be findin' out, 'tis very difficult
t' deliver.
Now fer th' login page problem.., by Blackbeard's sword. I've had th' occasional look (when
it use t' work fer me), but then I kept hearin' about difficulties
in accessin' it. And hoist the mainsail, ye scurvey dog! As it stands right now, I'm unable t' access th'
page from home or from work. And swab the deck, by Davy Jones' locker! I've tested with NT4/2000/XP/2003/Vista
and every browser that I know o'. Ahoy, by Blackbeard's sword! But as per Dragelet's request, I'm
goin' t' email that scurvey dog and see if we can get this problem resolved.
KRY
Message: 33 Sat Nov 18 12:49:34 2006 (Public)
To: ANONYMOUS
From: DRAGELET
Subject: th' game
Can ye give me any non-selfish reasons that I should open a port that
is used exclusively fer software fer certain users that most or all others
dern't know about or have access t'? My opinion o' clients on th' client-port
is that it gives th' user an advantage o'er ther other interfaces or otherwise
they wouldn't be usin' them. I believe a game should have a level playin'
field fer all.
And Infest is right, I can't stop one from workin' o'er telnet. So if
ye wanted one bad enough t' rewrite yours then ye could get yer way
whether I liked it or not.
Message: 36 Sat Nov 18 14:16:15 2006 (Public)
To: ANONYMOUS
From: DRAGELET
Subject: th' game
I startin' replyin' t' yer email a little bit ago but then I came t'
th' realization that it di'nae make sense t', we'll keel-haul ye! You aren't a player, and dinna spare the whip, by Davy Jones' locker! You
dern't intend t' become one. The logins are o' no concern t' ye. Am I
right or is that an unreasonable statement?
Message: 38 Sat Nov 18 18:21:08 2006 (Public)
To: ALL
From: VESTIAN
Subject: who mentioned katrina kirelli ?, we'll keel-haul ye!
*ssiiggghhhhh*
wheres Kat when ye need that comely wench...she'd slap these newbs aroun' a bit...
fer everyones sake...
~-= =-~Happy Huntin'~-= =-~
-ick
Message: 40 Sat Nov 18 18:52:10 2006 (Public)
To: DRAGELET
From: ANONYMOUS
Subject: th' game
Nay I'm not a player... but that's a lame excuse fer not fixin' th'
problem that is affectin' some o' yer players.
How about a compromise then? I'll help ye fix and identify th' bug,
and then ye'll ne'er hear from me again!
*sigh*
KRY
Message: 41 Sat Nov 18 18:57:13 2006 (Public)
To: DRAGELET
From: ANONYMOUS
Subject: th' game
You're right, me usage o' th' client port is selfish...
And yes there are a few advantages th' client port gives th' users,
but that's th' way Ray wrote it, and dinna spare the whip!
The fact that I dern't rewrite me client is due t' laziness, and also
out o' respect that ye di'nae want clients playin' here.
That's why I DON'T play here... does that mean I shouldn't log in
and check th' boards every now and then?
Cheers,
KRY
Message: 43 Sat Nov 18 20:48:58 2006 (Public)
To: ANONYMOUS
From: INFEST
Subject: th' game
lol, pass the grog!
So, let me get this straight. I can view th' login history, Sivert can
(since he posted it), Bestark can (since he also posted it), and no one
besides ye has complained. But yet ye insist its a problem with th'
server? Yaaarrrrr! Well that makes all th' sense in th' world!
Message: 44 Sat Nov 18 23:34:17 2006 (Public)
To: INFEST
From: ANONYMOUS
Subject: th' game
I'm tryin' really hard t' stay objective about this...
You're correct I no longer have access, and yes there are no
other people complainin', because have ye looked at how much
trouble I'm havin' t' go through?
Is it any wonder nobody else has complained?
Aarrr!
There is a problem, and it affects me both at home and at work...
Fire the cannons, by Blackbeard's sword!
I have asked members o' me family t' try, all with no luck.
That's a total o' 7 different source addresses?
Aarrr!
The only other explanation is that th' admins have blocked access
t' that page, but why would they do that?
Yaaarrrrr!
KRY
Message: 45 Sun Nov 19 03:52:41 2006 (Public)
To: ANONYMOUS
From: INFEST
Subject: th' game
So ye're sayin' that just because ye and these presumed third parties
(aka, yer relatives) can't configure yer PCs or network settin' well
enough t' view some web page that vast numbers o' people are havin' th'
same problems and yet no one has complained, by Davy Jones' locker? You spin quite th' story.
If th' server has been up since last December and this problem has existed
since then I'm sure people weren't holdin' out an entire year waitin'
t' see ye challenge th' admin here rather than write in on their own
t' ask about th' problem.
It's clear that ye dern't know that th' word Objective means. Its egregious
that ye are lettin' yer personal feelin's get in th' way o' rational
thought here. I've seen yer blog. Yaaarrrrr! Its clearly anti ELF (isn't that what
this place is called?), by Davy Jones' locker. You can pretend t' be innocent all ye want but
ye have some sort o' flagrant hatred or at least dislike fer this SST
game server. If ye've fogotten go look at yer blog posts sayin' there's
a conspiracy t' hide cheaters or that this is th' play server where no
challange exists, and a bottle of rum! I personally dern't blame Dragalet fer not goin' out
o' his way t' help ye fix ye and yer relatives PC problems.., I'll warrant ye. hell,
if I were that scurvey dog I'd just block ye from even loggin' in fer as much o' a
pain as ye are bein', by Blackbeard's sword.
Dragelet has done an excellent job and providin' a good home t' th' auld
SST users who dern't like th' new formats. If ye dern't like that then
just go away.
Message: 46 Sun Nov 19 05:36:04 2006 (Public)
To: INFEST
From: ANONYMOUS
Subject: th' game
If ye've got a problem with me blog, take it up with me there.
It's definitely not anti-ELF though? There's a total o' 3 posts
about ELF, and I've had this game listed in th' Active Games area?
Now, if ye weren't so busy tryin' t' abuse me, ye'd notice that
I have on several occasions mentioned that th' login history page
DID work, until recently, by Davy Jones' locker. That is what I'm tryin' t' resolve.
I've started a poll on me blog about whether th' login history page
works fer ye or not... I suggest ye use one o' yer many IP's t'
cast yer vote fer th' affirmitave.
KRY
http://kry.is-a-geek.org
More messages from th' ELF boards
Message: 47 Sun Nov 19 08:52:34 2006 (Public)To: ANONYMOUS
From: DRAGELET
Subject: th' game
Hah. Kry, ye crack me up. And hoist the mainsail! Do ye honestly think I'm sittin' at home with
all me spare time watchin' th' apache logs lookin' fer ye and yer relatives
(how th' hell would I know who yer relatives are anyway?) and settin'
up blocks in apache fer ye? You really do flatter yourself that I would
go so far out o' me way t' block ye and yer extended family. Yaaarrrrr, pass the grog! Just so
ye understand th' magnitute o' me efforts, I have also blocked yer neighbors'
IPs, yer mistress's IP, yer dentist's IP, yer auld college roomate's
IP, yer sailin' instructor from High School's IP, th' IP o' th' young
lubber who ye claim t' be "just maties" with in Ohio, and th' boogey lubber
who lives in yer closet's IP address. All just so ye can't access some
page that doesn't amount t' squat let alone this big stupid back and forth
conversation.
Message: 48 Sun Nov 19 08:53:53 2006 (Public)
To: INFEST
From: DRAGELET
Subject: th' game
Thanks Infest. You have some good points but lets net get o'er zealous
about this. I think someone needs t' spend some time in th' funny farm
t' tone down his conspiracy theories. Kry is downright bein' a troll (http://en.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_trolls). Don't "feed" th' troll by replyin'.
Message: 49 Sun Nov 19 09:01:59 2006 (Public)
To: ANONYMOUS
From: DRAGELET
Subject: th' game
So far (while lookin' at th' workin' login history page) I've seen Infest
only log in from a single IP/network.
Just so ye know, I'm not goin' t' continue with this insanity here or
o'er there, I'll warrant ye. Its clear that ye're trollin' and have no reason t' even
be havin' this conversation, avast. This has far surpassed th' 5 minutes this
entire conversation should have taken. If Infest wants t' follow ye t'
troll land then he can, we'll keel-haul ye, and a bucket o' chum!
Good day KRY, Bestark, and whichever other trollin' henchmen show up.
Dragelet
Message: 50 Sun Nov 19 11:33:15 2006 (Public)
To: VESTIAN
From: RED OCTOBER
Subject: who mentioned katrina kirelli ?, and dinna spare the whip!
does Kat still play, avast? Haven't seen that comely wench in any game in many many months.
Aarrr!
Message: 51 Sun Nov 19 11:35:50 2006 (Public)
To: ALL
From: RED OCTOBER
Subject: team
anyone lookin' fer an auld player t' join there team t' help sail up th'
score a little? I'm rusty... i ha'nae played fer a while because i thought
ray took th' domain offline. And hoist the mainsail! but low and behold, a google search brought
me back here! Walk the plank! Any interested parties, just PM me and i'll app t' yer
team. thanks
Message: 55 Sun Nov 19 20:37:42 2006 (Public)
To: ANONYMOUS
From: SIVART
Subject: self-selected internet poll
Internet on-line polls dern't e'er gather valid information, we'll keel-haul ye! Use them
fer entertainment only.
First off: an on-line poll cannot be valid because it is a self selected
poll, ye scurvey dog. Even if th' objective is t' find th' opinion o' those who select
themselves, participation rates will vary accordin' t' th' answers.
Secondly: only a very select set o' people will even know about any particular
on-line poll, and a bucket o' chum. It will ne'er be a valid demographic cross section.
Third: th' questions, as with most targeted polls, such as those put forth
by political "researchers" are likely t' be tailored t' get particular
answers.
Most Important, if th' poll is on any meaningful subject, it will be stuffed
and distorted. The internet enables very fast communications, and th'
word t' stuff th' poll will be quickly broadcast within particular interest
groups.
^ Text stole from: http://www.aaxnet.com/topics/polls.html
In summary, yer poll will be as ineffective as yer ability t' browse
workin' websites.